NEW YORK (AP) — If the NHL and the players' association are going to make a deal to save the hockey season, they are likely going to have to do it by themselves.

A pair of federal mediators tried to help for two days, but even they couldn't bring the fighting sides closer to a compromise.

"After spending several hours with both sides over two days, the presiding mediators concluded that the parties remained far apart, and that no progress toward a resolution could be made through further mediation at this point in time," NHL deputy commissioner Bill Daly said in a statement Thursday. "We are disappointed that the mediation process was not successful."

So far, nothing has been.

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