NEW YORK (AP) — With time running short to keep the NFL's preseason completely intact, owners and player representatives met Thursday at a Manhattan law firm to try and overcome the remaining obstacles to ending the fourth-month-long lockout.

NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell and eight of the 10 members of the owners' labor committee were present for the talks, including Jerry Jones of the Dallas Cowboys and John Mara of the New York Giants. Two new participants Thursday were Green Bay Packers CEO Mark Murphy and San Diego Chargers owner Dean Spanos.

NFL Players Association chief DeMaurice Smith and a half-dozen current or former players, including Indianapolis Colts center Jeff Saturday and Baltimore Ravens defensive back Domonique Foxworth, were there, too.

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