Get ready to explore the potential of innovative health care plan designs that seek to reduce out-of-pocket costs and increase access to care with our special guest, Kevin Kickhaefar, President and Chief Growth Officer at Gravy.  We'll learn about Kevin's fascinating journey from the Midwest to leading a health care startup and his vision of a redesigned health care system that works for everyone. We'll investigate the integration of direct primary care with plan design, and the challenges that brokers and advisors face in the current climate.

Thinking about level-funded and self-funded plans? Our insightful discussion with Kevin also covers their impact on employers and traditional health insurance carriers. We'll explore how these plans provide employers with more control over their health care costs, leading to a more sustainable model for the future. Learn about how direct primary care can bridge the health care gap in underserved communities, and how innovative partnerships are simplifying the payment process and virtual visits for patients and providers alike. If you're curious about the future of health insurance, this is one episode you won't want to miss.